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Iran?

First Afghanistan. Then Iraq. And now possibly…Iran? According to CNN,

The Bush administration has been carrying out secret reconnaissance missions to learn about nuclear, chemical and missile sites in Iran in preparation for possible airstrikes there, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.

The “secret missions” have been going on for over six months, according to Hersh. Iran, as many of you know, has refused to “dismantle its nuclear program, which it insists is legal and is intended solely for civilian purposes.” Writes Hersh in an article in the New Yorker…

“The next step is Iran. It’s definitely there. They’re definitely planning … But they need the intelligence first.”

NOTE: Emphasis mine.
This isn’t consistant with the Bush administration. The Bush I’ve come to know and love would just use false/fake evidence…or maybe no evidence at all. Come on, who’s needs intelligence when you’ve got a mandate? How many wars can we expect Bush to wage in the next four years? According to CNN, possibly ten. Ten.

The plans are not limited to Iran, he said.
“The president assigned a series of findings and executive orders authorizing secret commando groups and other special forces units to conduct covert operations against suspected terrorist targets in as many as 10 nations in the Middle East and South Asia,” he wrote.

The CIA would be powerless and the Pentagon would take over the wars. [A victory for Rumsfeld.]
Here is a statement issued by the Iranian Defense Minister…

We are able to say that we have strength such that no country can attack us because they do not have precise information about our military capabilities due to our ability to implement flexible strategies…we can claim that we have rapidly produced equipment that has resulted in the greatest deterrent.

The American government has also responded to Hersh’s article. According to the Australian News

Pentagon spokesman Larry DiRita said The New Yorker article by Pulitzer prize-winning writer Seymour Hersh was “so riddled with errors of fundamental fact that the credibility of his entire piece is destroyed”…Mr DiRita, however, said his latest news report had no basis in fact.

But what if what Hersh is saying is true? Writes Jonathan Marcus of the BBC, “Hersh says that the administration’s aims could include not just an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities, but full-scale regime change.” It will be a lot harder to attack and overthrow Iran than it has been with Iraq. The Iranian war would be met with little support in America (none throughout the world), and the entire region of the Middle East would be panic-stricken, chaotic and above all, anti-American.

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January 17, 2005 - Posted by | The Progressive Movement

10 Comments »

  1. Bush denies going into Iran but says “I would like to solve it diplomaticly but I am not willing to take any option off the table” (Interview with David Gregory. MSNBC Hardball. 1/17/05)

    Comment by chris | January 17, 2005 | Reply

  2. Why would Hersh put his career before national security and try to expose secret operations.

    Comment by rwa2 | January 17, 2005 | Reply

  3. He’s trying to convince the people in the administration to not go to war. But he didn’t disclose any information that could harm Americans I believe.

    Why would Bush not tell us about the prospect of war with Iran?

    And yes he says that he wants to solve it dimplomatically…but will we really…?

    Comment by Steven L. | January 17, 2005 | Reply

  4. “He’s trying to convince the people in the administration to not go to war.”

    First of all, he knows he can’t possibly succeed in doing that.

    Secondly, he’s reporting that we are secretly trying to gather intelligence. How does that relate to convincing the administration?

    “But he didn’t disclose any information that could harm Americans I believe.”

    Telling Iran that we’re going undercover exposes these people. It would be harder to get intelligence if these people were killed or exposed. Yes, this harms Americans.

    “Why would Bush not tell us about the prospect of war with Iran?”

    Uh. He has.

    Comment by rwa2 | January 17, 2005 | Reply

  5. he has?

    Comment by chris | January 17, 2005 | Reply

  6. First, in answer to Chris: “I would like to solve it diplomaticly but I am not willing to take any option off the table”. He’s not taking any options off the table… I assume that includes war…

    “The Iranian war would be met with little support in America (none throughout the world), and the entire region of the Middle East would be panic-stricken, chaotic and above all, anti-American.”

    Does it really matter how many people support a war to determine if it’s justified? Who gives a damn if everyone is gonna start crying–I’d rather be crying than dead. And it makes me happy to realize that the Bush administration is finally recognizing their mistakes and *fixing* them! Bravo to the thick heads at the white house! Now if only they had done this right from the start, they might’ve won this election by more than 3%…

    I’m not entirely sure what you were trying to say in this post… Should we just stop spying on all other countries completely? Just take down our satelites, pull out our agents, and just hope they come to the table and discuss their frustrations with us before making any kind of attack? Because that strategy has done really poorly in the past (re: 9/11)

    Also, it is now obviously true that there were no WMDs in Iraq. But there were weapons of biological warfare, and evidence of chemical plants and such, no? (see links below) It’s not like there was *nothing* there, is my point.

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/25/iraq.main/index.html

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/27/iraq.explosives/index.html

    I really dislike defending republicans, it’s nauseating. Maybe you guys could lessen up on the radical, in-my-opinion statements and focus on exposing the major flaws of the Bush administration? It’d be nice to agree with something you guys write 🙂

    Comment by AVoiceofReason | January 17, 2005 | Reply

  7. Bush has never denied the possibility of entering Iran. If anyone saw Hardball today, the military specialists they had on made some good points about the situation. Firstly, one argued that until after the European attempts at multilateral negotiations fail, the US will remain uninvolved. At that point, the US will have both the intelligence and motive to use force, as they will most likely deem necessary.

    Secondly, one general proposed the hypothesis that this Iran scare was likely leaked by either the CIA or the Pentagon to place the other in a difficult place. This certainly seems reasonable, and probably likely. By playing one against another, the manipulative party can either gain support for their recon missions (CIA) or later military action (the Pentagon).

    If the US will act on Iran, it will not be for some time. I do not doubt that the Bush administration is willing to do so – especially in the wake of their dliberate lack of denial – but it will not be until a respectable propaganda campaign is in place.

    I disagree with your last point. An Iranian action will be met with greater internation support because a) we know that these WMDs actually exist and b) Europe will be on our side, since it is their asses that stand to lose the most while they are within range of attack.

    Comment by Anonymous | January 17, 2005 | Reply

  8. a voice of reason… Finally! A thinking Democrat!

    I don’t rule out the possibility that there were no WMD’s. You have to take in the fact that Saddam had plenty of time to hide them in his own country. Maybe if we hadn’t gone to the U.N., he wouldnt have had the time.

    Secondly, we’ve heard lots of reports of suspicious things moving into Syria. Once again, he had plenty of time.

    Either way, we know he was planning on starting up the WMD program again.

    Comment by rwa2 | January 18, 2005 | Reply

  9. a voice of reason… Finally! A thinking Democrat!

    I don’t rule out the possibility that there were no WMD’s. You have to take in the fact that Saddam had plenty of time to hide them in his own country. Maybe if we hadn’t gone to the U.N., he wouldnt have had the time.

    Secondly, we’ve heard lots of reports of suspicious things moving into Syria. Once again, he had plenty of time.

    Either way, we know he was planning on starting up the WMD program again.

    Comment by rwa2 | January 18, 2005 | Reply

  10. Anyone caught off guard in terms of Iran being on “Bush’s list” was not paying attention the last 4 years. Iran is 1 of 3 in the Axis of Evil, along with Iraq and North Korea. We are in Iraq, and are working with China, that has massively more influence with North Korea then we do, to resolve that problem. That leaves Iran. They are in the middle of negotiations with the EU over their nuclear program. Any thinking person can see this leek was done to remind Iran of the price of failure to come to a satisfactory resolution in the negotiations with the EU. We have spies and commando teams everywhere. Is anyone really surprised by this? If you are, you need to rejoin reality. Europe has a lot more to worry about in Iran than we do, and Iran has a right to be VERY worried about events in the Middle East. Both Afghanistan and Iraq have started down the long road to freedom. The Govt of Iran surely does not want Iran to follow. The leadership there surely can not like the idea of a country where the people are free to criticize the Govt, where women are equal to men, and laws are based on what is right, not what the Religious Leader of the day feels should be. The US is not going to act in Iran, until the negotiations with the EU fall apart, as they ultimately will. At that point, I would be willing to bet that the countries in the EU will lead the drive against Iran, as they have much greater cause for concern then the US does.

    Comment by ÐÇRøçk§ | January 18, 2005 | Reply


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